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Your Body's Hidden Wisdom: Game-Changing Secrets w/Dr. Lahana Vigliano

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In this transformative episode of Confident Sober Women, functional nutrition expert Dr. Lahana Vigliano, founder of Nuvitru Wellness, reveals groundbreaking insights about holistic health transformation. Her revolutionary approach to women's wellness combines ancient wisdom with modern functional medicine, offering hope for those seeking genuine healing. 

Key Highlights: 

  • Dr. Lahana's Journey: From aspiring MD to holistic healing pioneer, discover why she chose to revolutionize traditional healthcare through functional nutrition.
  • The Gut-Health Revolution: Learn why your gut is the master key to hormone balance, weight management, and overall wellness, creating a powerful "domino effect" of healing.
  • Revolutionary Patient Care: Understand why exploring your health timeline "from your mother's womb to now" is crucial for true healing and sets apart genuine root-cause practitioners.
  • Breaking Stress Cycles: Uncover why stress—not just diet—might be blocking your wellness journey and how creating joy becomes medicine.
  • Practical Natural Healing: Discover simple yet powerful steps using real food, nutrient diversity, and consistent small changes for lasting transformation.


Essential for Sober Women: This episode offers critical insights for women navigating sobriety, revealing how physical healing supports emotional sobriety. Whether newly sober or years into your journey, learn how integrating these practices can strengthen your path to wellness.

Connect with Dr. Lahana Vigliano:
 

  • Website: nuvitruwellness.com
  • Instagram: @nuvitruwellness
  • Podcasts: Functional Nutrition Radio and Power Women Wellness


Ready to transform your sober journey through better health? This episode provides the roadmap you've been searching for.
 
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00:00:00 Speaker 1

Well, hey there, Lana, this. I'm so glad to have you here on the confidence over women podcast. I'm excited to hear so much. We're gonna dive in this. This is gonna.

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Be a content.

00:00:09 Speaker 1

Rich episode like a Super practical episode about health and natural Wellness, and we're just gonna get into all the stuff. But first, I'm gonna let you share a little bit more about your story and.

00:00:20 Speaker 1

That we're.

00:00:21 Speaker 2

Yes, I know. Thank you so much for having me. I love what you're doing because I I adore the sober movement that's going on right now. I'm just so obsessed with all of it. So thank you for having me. I'm doctor lohana vigliano. I am the founder of movie True. I have my doctor in Clinical Nutrition. So I I've always been a person that loved health.

00:00:42 Speaker 2

Literally, since I was like 5, I thought I was going to be a doctor. Great. I I thought I was going to be an empty but slowly transition.

00:00:48 Speaker 2

Well, just because I noticed that honestly, it was a a pill for an ill and that was really what healthcare was. And I just felt like there's so much of like, well, why aren't we understanding like why things are occurring in first place, right? Like trying to understand their diet and their lifestyle and what's bringing them here. So that's what made me kind of shift outside of the conventional realm.

00:01:08 Speaker 2

And so when it comes to also alcohol, because that is like what your podcast is all about, I actually have never been drunk in my life. I my mom was.

00:01:23 Speaker 2

Probably a little bit more towards a mean drunk and so I feel like I had that experience growing up and not that she was abusive, but I just remember like hearing her, like, bring up things that people did to her like 40 years ago. And I was just like, man, I was just like, not the person that I want to be. And I think that was a reason why I kind of steered.

00:01:44 Speaker 2

Away from it. When I started getting into those teenage years, you know, when this stuff just naturally start tapping up parties and you're just around it more. But I also want to preface that like, I'm like an anagram 8 for anyone who knows anagram. And we are, I think, rebels at heart.

00:02:00 Speaker 2

So I feel like and and this goes for anything, not even just alcohol, but anytime a lot of people are doing something, I'm usually wanting to do opposite because I don't know. There's just like, I don't know, something in me that like, I want to be different, I don't want.

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To.

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Blend in. I want to stand out and so obviously when also everyone starting to party, I naturally kind of was like.

00:02:20 Speaker 2

I don't want to. I'd rather focus on school and stay at home and read books and not that I was a nerd. I cheerlead and all that stuff too. But so I was around it. But I think it was just my experience of my mom drinking.

00:02:32 Speaker 2

And me just wanting to be different and I didn't even know all the health effects like that. If if I knew that early, I would definitely be like no. So I think I was just like leaning into my intuition of what it felt was right. And so yeah, I that's my fun. Fact is like, I've never been drunk. And I'm 32 years old and people are like, when I tell them that they're like.

00:02:52 Speaker 1

What?

00:02:55 Speaker 2

And I honestly don't even think I've ever really drank more than, like, three sets of something. I I think the other part too is like you try when you're younger and then you're like, this is disgusting. Like, this doesn't taste that great. Like, I'd rather have sweet tea and it just I could never get over the hump of every time that I speak to someone. They're like, yeah, usually, you know.

00:03:15 Speaker 2

I started when I was drinking, when I was younger, and to do it right, to fit in, to feel cool, to be like with your friends and to me. I could just never, never just overcome that. That part where I'm just like, yeah, I will just suck it up and get over the taste. I'm like, no, I just kind of get over the taste either. So multifactorial here.

00:03:33 Speaker 1

I really appreciate that. Thank you so much for sharing a little bit more about your personal story and this is different because most people who are here with me, as you probably know, are definitely women who are living in alcohol free lifestyle, but not for the same reasons that you are now. Some of them are and I do love like you mentioned this incredible movement towards.

00:03:53 Speaker 1

It's sort of sober living or alcohol or lifestyle, and it's refreshing as a woman who's.

00:03:55

Yeah.

00:04:00 Speaker 1

Much older than you and but I also have young people in my life. I have three kind of young adult, one teenager left in my life, so it's refreshing to see people really, especially women, taking a look at substances when it comes to their health.

00:04:16 Speaker 1

I don't think that that really never came up at all, you know.

00:04:19 Speaker 1

In our generation.

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Younger on our when we were younger and so it is nice and and with that team, you know the comes the explosion of the non alcoholic drink industry and all kinds of sober events and things which I'm here for all of that. I love it so. But most of the women.

00:04:29 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:04:36 Speaker 1

Who in our community are are not living that?

00:04:39 Speaker 1

Way because of the same reasons and that's OK. Some of them are. But I also think it's really important to note that your connection to alcohol. I don't know if your mom would identify as an alcoholic or somebody who's an addict, but somebody who is who is not the best, who displayed kind of behaviors or.

00:04:59 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:04:59 Speaker 1

Questions that were different and I'm a little bit unpleasant when she was using alcohol. Did that made a big impact on you? Then you suddenly not suddenly you realized.

00:05:06 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:05:10 Speaker 1

Yeah, I don't. I'm really not about this.

00:05:12 Speaker 2

You know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I would say she was an alcoholic. She definitely drank to cope. So when things felt stressful, she would go to it. And so it wasn't daily or too frequently. There was, I think, seasons where it maybe it was a little bit more, but still. Yeah. The person that she turned into.

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But.

00:05:30 Speaker 2

Was definitely not someone that's like. I don't want to be that way, and sometimes it's I feel like a reason why we still clash to this day.

00:05:37 Speaker 2

Because she doesn't drink anymore. But like it's just very different, like thinking like she's a little bit more negative. I'm naturally a little bit more positive. So I feel like that as an upbringing was always kind of that where we were butting heads.

00:05:52 Speaker 1

Oh, that's interesting too. I'm curious a little bit more about that. If I don't, I don't want to dive too far or get off track, but I'm curious if you've in your work just.

00:05:59 Speaker 1

If you could.

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Say I'm wondering, yeah. Able to discover a little bit more about that, particularly as in your older years, maybe through your schooling and then through your own.

00:06:10 Speaker 1

Advanced education around around gut health, micro room and our brain health and our mood. And I don't know, I'm just curious if you what you've discovered about yourself related to that and what might have been going on there?

00:06:14 Speaker 2

Yeah.

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Umm.

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I mean, yeah, I've done so.

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Much.

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Work. I mean, I'm so grateful. I do have an upbringing that honestly was like.

00:06:31 Speaker 2

Pretty Dang good. I mean, I thankfully don't have any massive trauma or anything like that, so I'm very thankful for that. But little T's big T's, there's all some type of some type of trauma and even, like, not just myself, but working with patients because we do have a lot of women that come in to us, right, and they're not feeling well. And so they are wanting to take things naturally.

00:06:52 Speaker 2

That alcohol is a huge hold over them and so it's a conversation that has to come up. And so for women who usually that hold is pretty strong, they're using it as a coping mechanism.

00:07:04 Speaker 2

Or trauma that they've never addressed and it's kind of come up in this way. That's something that we have to talk about and bring up and, you know, start reframing, you know, our use of alcohol. And so a lot of women, we, all of our programs, we don't, we take out alcohol in the beginning, but they look or they look back and they're like, wow, like I.

00:07:24 Speaker 2

Don't want to drink anymore. And they were they were dead.

00:07:26 Speaker 2

Set on like. I can't take it out for long. I'll do it three weeks, but not for long. But once that three hit three-week Mark hits or like Oh my gosh, like I'm. I'm done. Like, I didn't realize how badly I felt. And then then that kind of goes into, like, understanding what their background is. So I usually for me there was. I mean I'm still.

00:07:46 Speaker 2

I'm still in therapy. I think everyone should be in therapy. It's so helpful. I mean, who doesn't need therapy? So I'm still unpacking. Actually, my relationship with my mom and.

00:07:57 Speaker 2

What? That what that looks like? Because we aren't close and I'm super close with my daughter. She's 10. I have a 14 year old and a 10 year old. And so we are like the complete opposite of like what me and my mom are. So unpacking that because now she has kidney disease and she's honestly probably going to pass the next couple years. So I'm preparing my heart and mind and soul for that next transition for her.

00:08:19 Speaker 2

And what that looks like. So that's why we're unpacking that. But outside of that, I don't. I don't know if I can speak on anything specific when it comes to like alcohol in her.

00:08:29 Speaker 1

Cool. So let's get into it. So obviously you are highly educated in the area of health. And so when you what was like, I know you said a little bit about this passion came from a very young age. And I'm curious as you sort of went through undergrad and started to really dive into the different areas because there's so much involved with health, so many different areas.

00:08:49 Speaker 1

To get into whether it's mental health or actual physical health. But there's policy stuff, there's cellular stuff, there's so many different areas. So I'm curious. As you started to really.

00:08:59 Speaker 1

Uncover what what part really interests you like, what was? What was it for you that did it? Like? What made you really want to dive into like your graduate program in that specific area?

00:09:09 Speaker 2

Yeah. So I was pre Med up until I did it like I was halfway done with my bachelors in pre Med and then that's when I switched to nutrition and they took nutrition all the way through.

00:09:20 Speaker 2

Doctor it and I always loved learning how the body works. Like I still to this day like I want to know.

00:09:27 Speaker 2

What the mitochondria does like, I want to understand how everything works, how everything put together. So I mean, even in high school like anatomy and Physiology like so I found that so fascinating. I just think our bodies are so cool. And that's why I'm like, I'm such a fan of, like, taking care of your body because you only have one. And I I just love and then more in the natural realm.

00:09:49 Speaker 2

I fell in love with the idea.

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Of using food and exercise and herbs. I also I actually love this since I was a kid too. I just didn't know what it was. But I remember reading books on like Herb, so like this is what Rosemary can do and I didn't really know too much about it. I was like, that's pretty cool. Like that's a cool place that we like Cook. And so like in fact like why I've always loved herbs and.

00:10:12 Speaker 2

Just seeing just the power of something so natural in this world to be able to help your health.

00:10:16 Speaker 2

It's just I've I've always like that. Just sold. And so that's when I connected that like I had that little enjoyment or interest in it, which I didn't really fully know how to put that into my career. And then when I switched to nutrition and I'm like this is it like this is a part of a healthy body. And so that's what made me also understand that this is a root cause.

00:10:37 Speaker 2

To the chronic illness today because like I said earlier, how our conventional healthcare system is set up is a pill for an ill which is needed at certain times of our life and certain things that we may be going through. But a lot of the times we that's not where we stop. That might be a stepping point, but it's not where we stopped to understand.

00:10:53 Speaker 2

Well, why? Why do I have IBS, right? Why do I have PCOS? Why do I have diabetes? There's something so much more to that. And that can be food that can be stress, that can be sleep, that can be trauma that we haven't addressed. Like, there's so many different areas. And that's why we I really fell in love with that holistic viewpoint.

00:11:11 Speaker 1

I love that so much. So let's get into it. So you started this practice and I think you're with several other women. I saw several on your website. So you have a nice team that you've developed on.

00:11:18 Speaker 2

Mm-hmm.

00:11:21 Speaker 1

For your practice. And So what is like the just let's just get into like maybe talking about specific ideal clients. So when you what is maybe the most common thing that you see when you see is mostly women that come in only women, OK, when you see women come in, are they, you know, just to give us a demographic, what age group are they typically like? What symptoms are they?

00:11:34

Yeah.

00:11:40 Speaker 2

OK.

00:11:41 Speaker 1

Begin with. What are they saying is happening? And then let's get into what do.

00:11:45 Speaker 2

You do? Yeah.

00:11:46 Speaker 2

OK, so I would say I am seeing a movement in the early 20s and I think this is to talk in social media, right? I think we're just more exposed to information. So they are actually coming and going. I want to take care of my body. I want to be on birth control or whatever, which I think is so cool.

00:12:02 Speaker 2

So I would say 25 to 45 is the age range. So everyone from like college to perimenopause most women are coming to us, usually with a bunch of different symptoms, not always diagnosis like IBS. PCOS. You know anything, gut hormone?

00:12:20 Speaker 2

Related, but it's just like I don't feel good. I can't lose weight. I'm tired. I have brain fog. I'm always bloated all the time. Maybe they're period is regular, or maybe it's regular, but it's really painful, so they usually have just a bunch of different symptoms, and they've honestly been bounced back and forth between conventional Med.

00:12:40 Speaker 2

And I have to tell them that, you know, conventional Med is there for disease, right? They they you have to diagnose and that's how you treat if you don't have a diagnosis, they can't treat it. There's nothing to.

00:12:50 Speaker 2

Street in my world, there's so many women in this Gray area that don't have a disease, but they don't feel well and there are things that we can be doing to hopefully not get to the level of disease. We're not trying to wait till we get there. We want to help prevent it as much as possible or women that have a diagnosis and they're just honestly interested in some doing something more natural.

00:13:11 Speaker 2

Because maybe they are on meds, but they're like, I don't wanna be on thyroid medication my whole life. Like what? What's the reason for this? So there's a big movement there. So that's kind of what they're struggling with.

00:13:22 Speaker 2

And I would say a lot of our patients also have seen so many professionals, a lot of them have seen conventional care doctors, functional medicine doctors, dietitians, all the practitioners, which, yes, comes to the question of what makes you different. Honestly, I.

00:13:38 Speaker 2

Have no idea.

00:13:40 Speaker 2

I wish I could tell you. I mean, I have seen so many other care.

00:13:43 Speaker 2

Plans that functional medicine providers and.

00:13:46 Speaker 2

Many other providers have provided and I have not been impressed, so I will say I have a very high standard and even for myself, me as a patient I have such a high standard of what healthcare should look like and it's very much like avoid gluten, avoid dairy, avoid alcohol, exercise and that's pretty much a care plan and like that is. So I mean what does that actually look like?

00:14:05 Speaker 2

Right. And I think there's more to it than also food restriction. But anyways, so I see a lot of our patients that have been just bounced around from provider to provider still have no success, still not feeling well.

00:14:17 Speaker 2

And and yeah, I think that's it. That's all I think I answer all your questions.

00:14:21 Speaker 1

Yeah. And so when they come in with these kinds of things, I mean, what do you typically? So I mean, obviously, you've been doing this for a while where you know you already intuitively know probably because you have, you know, similar to me. You hear kinds of the same kinds of stories right away. And so right away, what are you aware of? Like, what are you thinking we need to do this. We need to do this. What are you thinking?

00:14:42

Yes.

00:14:42 Speaker 1

Immediately, what do we need?

00:14:43 Speaker 2

To do yes, and we definitely work in stages. So even if you come to me with like GI stuff or hormone stuff or weight stuff, all of it, all of your body is feeding and talking to each other, it's feeding to one another. So some area in the body's off, it's going to impact the other areas of the body. I usually will recommend starting with gut.

00:15:02 Speaker 2

Because the most important part.

00:15:05 Speaker 2

Of everything, it's how we interact with our food and if we can't even pull our nutrients from our food and digest them properly, then we're definitely not going to have the best hormones. We're not going to have the best nutrient levels just because we can't even digest from our environment. So that's number one. And then also I think we're at the very, very tip of the iceberg of understanding how gut impacts all the other.

00:15:25 Speaker 2

Areas like hormones, weight loss, I mean studies even show, you know, there's two rats, one's obese and one is skinny and everything's the same like what the rats are eating everything like that. But they'll take the the stool from the skinny mice and put it into the obese mice and the obese.

00:15:40 Speaker 2

The put put the stool from the obese mice into the skinny mice and the skinny mice will get gain weight. Nothing else changed. It's just they had a stool transplant, basically. And so I feel like we're just.

00:15:52 Speaker 2

On the very ground.

00:15:53 Speaker 2

Oh my gosh, at the very tip at the very tip of the iceberg of understanding how that impacts the entire body. So I love starting with gut health.

00:16:00 Speaker 2

Because so many women will start to be like, oh, I'm losing weight, but we're not doing anything. Weight loss in quotes or, oh, my gosh, my periods aren't painful. We're not doing anything hormone focused, but we are. We're just working.

00:16:10 Speaker 2

In a pattern that's going to help, like create a domino effect of this will improve, then this will improve. Then this will improve. But I think the biggest thing that I love to do when first starting to work with the patient that I very, very, very rarely see practitioners do. So to me this is a red flag is if your practitioner isn't asking you.

00:16:30 Speaker 2

What life was like in your mom's womb?

00:16:33 Speaker 2

I think that's all the way back there and we go from there to elementary to middle to high school and to now because a lot of how women are feeling is not because of something that's changed in the week. It's usually been happening for years and decades. And So what I want to know is like, yeah, it's how much antibiotics were you on as a baby? Did you have mono in high school?

00:16:52 Speaker 2

Did you always have stomach bugs in middle school and your mom was like, you're always getting sick? Did your parents get divorced when you were five? Did you? Were you sexually abused? Were you, you know, abusing alcohol? Were you in an abusive relationship in college? Like even though people like I came to you cuz?

00:17:07 Speaker 2

I'm bloated, like how does that?

00:17:10 Speaker 2

Asking me this, I promise.

00:17:12 Speaker 2

There's such a connection there, and so my goal, and that's true root cause work is when you understand a person's timeline in their life and their health, you're able to see when their body started speaking to them. And then we're able to actually address the root cause. And sometimes it's like things like trauma that we don't do. But we are actually in the process of hiring a therapist.

00:17:32 Speaker 2

For that reason, but again, that's like my passion. And so that's if you take away anything, if you're with the practitioner not asking those questions, you're not actually doing root cause work, you're still doing.

00:17:42 Speaker 2

A pill for.

00:17:42 Speaker 2

An ill even if it's a like a natural pill for an L.

00:17:46 Speaker 1

That's pretty profound.

00:17:49 Speaker 1

And slightly discouraging, in some ways I see a lot of functional medicine practitioners as well, and I still use them in my life and I.

00:17:57 Speaker 1

Love them as well.

00:17:57 Speaker 1

And I find them. I love that.

00:18:01 Speaker 1

Just it's just much more knowledgeable like you are. Yeah. Lost space than the Western medicine system. A lot of time to go. Obviously. We need it for many things like emergency medicine, orthopedics, things like this. You know, we can't survive like essential oils on our guts hanging out.

00:18:04 Speaker 2

For sure.

00:18:07

Yeah.

00:18:15 Speaker 1

If we just got.

00:18:16 Speaker 1

Our accident, like we need emergency medicine. We need things right. But the other stuff that's happening and that's been happening in our in our country specifically, I can't speak to.

00:18:24 Speaker 1

Where else has been very upsetting.

00:18:27 Speaker 1

And not only emotionally, but definitely upsetting to our bodies. What's supposed to be the most that you just said was is well, was when you said, when did your body start speaking to you and?

00:18:28 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:18:39 Speaker 1

I think that's a really important.

00:18:42 Speaker 1

Statement to highlight because that's the kind of language that we I use in my in my practice. And when we do trauma work, especially too because there's so much body work, you know, we know that today from research that the body holds trauma differently than the brains do. And so.

00:18:55 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:18:59 Speaker 1

We we have to work on that part too. That somatic piece, but when you say it like it comes to me in a different way because you're speaking specifically from a health standpoint, I know it's all the things, but you're saying that to somebody and and from a health chair and you're asking them to sort of feel into themselves.

00:19:02

Yeah.

00:19:21 Speaker 1

Yeah, right. And saying when can you go back all the way in your life? Like, when can you remember the?

00:19:26 Speaker 1

First time your body started speaking to you and that is.

00:19:29 Speaker 1

Really, really profound.

00:19:32 Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, I know. And it's so funny when you think about it like that. Like, well, I don't. I actually don't know. But when you break it down into, like, elementary and middle, you will, like, little things will come up that maybe honestly, you probably thought like we're not a big deal because that's totally starts is it's like little like, yeah, I guess I had headaches like once a month for years.

00:19:50 Speaker 2

And then yeah, I guess I developed migraines. And so we always think about the migraine part, but we don't think about when those tiny other little headaches started when your body did start speaking to you and there's a bunch of great functional doc.

00:20:01 Speaker 2

Markers for sure. I just wanted to clarify that as well, but I I I mean yeah, a lot of our patients that have gone to see people, it is like, oh, here's you have inflammation, here's turmeric. And obviously, I love turmeric obsessed, but that's not solving. My turmeric is actually happened or why inflammation is happening. So it is a natural pill.

00:20:21 Speaker 2

For an ill and I see that more often than I want to admit, which also makes me a little sad too.

00:20:26 Speaker 2

Because I'm like, gosh, like I mean, yes, we still need Western. Definitely do not. If you break a a bone, I I cannot help you, but I'm just like naturally like well, I'll turn to functional. And so I've seen sometimes some are best patients have come from the best functional doctors here in Austin and I am so disappointed. And so to me I think as a patient I'm.

00:20:46 Speaker 2

Like, no, I cannot lose hope and functional either like this. There is answers, but unfortunately I think more often than not I want people to know that just in case you go look for functional and you didn't get the best experience. Don't worry. Please don't give up on it. There's other people out there because a lot of people that come to us are about to give up on it.

00:21:06 Speaker 2

They're like it's the same thing. They're shoving me with a bunch of supplements. I'm like, I promise that is not what everyone is like.

00:21:12 Speaker 1

I appreciate that. And I think that's really important because there's because it's like baby stepping like we're, we're, like, babying our baby, stepping our way to who knows what. I don't know. It won't be in my lifetime, I'm sure, but to actualization right to to maybe, I don't know if it's a return. I don't really like return, but maybe it's.

00:21:25 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:21:33 Speaker 1

Value alignment with what would you say? Maybe like older?

00:21:41 Speaker 1

I'm thinking farmers, I don't know, but the word would be like a return to.

00:21:44 Speaker 1

Our ancestry, yes, yes.

00:21:46 Speaker 1

Ancient ways. I don't know. I'm having a hard time describing it, but like and not a return because we're obviously civilized. We go back to not having computers, but we're gonna return in a way to understanding the entire.

00:21:48

Yes.

00:21:53 Speaker 2

Right.

00:21:56 Speaker 2

Right.

00:22:02 Speaker 1

System of all of these things. And so I like this because what you're doing is almost, I mean, you're doing like trauma. We're doing this almost exactly what I do with EMDR, which is amazing, but.

00:22:13 Speaker 2

I love emdr crazy.

00:22:15 Speaker 1

You. That's what I do. But you're doing a lot of that work, but from a.

00:22:21 Speaker 1

Physical health, medical standpoint, but it's all the same and I say that here too, like it's we're all one body. We're one system, not one heart. We're not one foot. We're not one brain like we're all one system and it's working together no matter whether we think.

00:22:27

Yeah.

00:22:34 Speaker 1

Cuz or not, but so we're like, I think we are baby stepping our way back to viewing it as that like a I.

00:22:35

Yeah.

00:22:39 Speaker 1

Yes, approach approach where we review all of those things. And so people like you are cropping up and now being like, oh, let's let's merge these things together. Let's look for the origin story and then and then insert EMDR brainspotting slash in our feedback. And then, oh, by the way, also let's.

00:22:59 Speaker 1

Eliminate some of these things, add in some nutraceuticals, and then Wham, we've got this solution.

00:23:04 Speaker 1

And.

00:23:05 Speaker 1

That is treating that whole system instead of just what? Yes. Oh my gosh. I'm like having this major.

00:23:08 Speaker 2

Yes.

00:23:12 Speaker 1

Revelation about this.

00:23:12

This is.

00:23:13 Speaker 1

Really profound so.

00:23:15 Speaker 1

When you when you start to do that so like so I noticed on your website that you have like testing you offer like different kinds of. I'm correcting me if I'm wrong like blood testing you have your saliva. I'm not sure.

00:23:25

MHM.

00:23:26 Speaker 1

What else you do?

00:23:27 Speaker 1

To to to do what? What are you looking for?

00:23:30

Yeah.

00:23:31 Speaker 2

And I would say about both common tests, because like I said, I kind of go back to gut 1st and that is usually stool testing. So I am looking for inflammation. I'm looking for how you digest your food. I'm looking for little buggies. I always say we're a little Airbnb and we host lots of buggies. So we got to make sure we're feeding them well. So like short chain fatty acids, bacteria, parasites.

00:23:52 Speaker 2

There's yeast. How we detoxify. I mean, obviously pooping is detoxification, but detoxifying. There's certain enzymes in our stool that can tell us.

00:24:01 Speaker 2

And for detoxifying well, or for reabsorbing certain hormones and toxins that have processed through the liver and trying to leave the body, if they're being reabsorbed, which obviously causes an issue. So that's what our stool test is looking for. But yeah, we do blood sugar, we do full thyroid, we do female hormones. We also we do environmental toxins and mold because that's definitely a big part of the picture.

00:24:22 Speaker 2

As well that I love talking about because I think it's very important because we don't talk about it as much so.

00:24:30 Speaker 2

A little bit of everything, but I again am a fan of. Just like focusing on one area, we do nutrient deficiencies. So usually most people are like stool testing first nutrient efficiencies next. Then I would say most women like I really want to get my hormones and hormones are fantastic, but they are, they're following the lead of other areas of the body. So if you want better.

00:24:50 Speaker 2

Female hormones. You have to have a better gut. You have to have balanced blood sugar. You have to have a good thyroid. Like all these things have to be good. Before I look at estrogen cause all that's going to give me is just more.

00:25:01 Speaker 2

They're like cool. You have high estrogen. Well, are you reabsorbing it through the gut? So do you have a gut health issue? Are you being exposed to it through environmental toxins like pallets and BPA and parabens? All these things are influencing our estrogen. So that's why I try to keep that lasting, though most women at that point are like, I just want to see. So we usually will do them that with the cortisol and adrenals to assess stress.

00:25:21 Speaker 2

Hormones. So looking at a lot of things because.

00:25:23 Speaker 2

Again, it all matters.

00:25:24 Speaker 1

It's very comprehensive and I think it's important for people to understand if you walked into your.

00:25:29 Speaker 1

Medical provider, which I'm sure many of you probably had these experiences. I know I have, although not very often because I don't generally go to Western medicine doctors. However, I recently had over the last several years very, very negative experience because I had to go to one because I needed a physical for my insurance. My husband's company off for like a discount or something. And I was like, fine, I'll get it.

00:25:49 Speaker 1

And this was a female doctor too, and I thought I had a break. I I thought I had a good match. Usually I get a decent recommendation and.

00:25:55 Speaker 1

She told me that when I'm 49 years old, so I'm obviously perimenopausal, you know, things are happening and a year. Thank you, I said to her, it's probably like 2 years, three years ago. And I said I wanted to get my have my hormones tested, which by the way, I do every single year with my GYN cuz she just does it for me. And she said, oh, we don't do that.

00:26:02 Speaker 2

Well, you look fantastic.

00:26:16 Speaker 1

And I was like, excuse me.

00:26:18 Speaker 1

And she said, oh, we don't just, we don't just do that. We just we know it's like sort of saying like if your daughter was getting her puberty like we know she's in puberty. So we don't want to test.

00:26:28 Speaker 1

For it, and I'm like, oh, that's so.

00:26:29 Speaker 1

Interesting.

00:26:30 Speaker 1

I do it every year and I'm asking you, I'm your patient to provide this for me because I feel like it's. I pay my insurance, you know. Anyway, it was the whole drama. I was very upset because I felt like it was listening to me. I'm not sure why she cared because all you do is check off the boxes. But basically she tried to tell me that This is why that.

00:26:42 Speaker 2

I.

00:26:43 Speaker 2

I'll never understand that.

00:26:47 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:26:50 Speaker 1

We have high costs in medical care because we're making unnecessary tests and I'm like this like $10 lab test is what's causing medical prices rise, but whatever.

00:26:58

OK.

00:27:00 Speaker 1

You know, I just was like, had to move on anyway. We had a whole thing about it. So if you walk into your regular, my point was is if you go into your regular doctor, they're not gonna talk to you in this way about these kind of things. So it's so important for you to get connected and.

00:27:13 Speaker 1

I'm not saying you should.

00:27:14 Speaker 1

Have a primary care doctor. Sure. Have a relationship is.

00:27:15

Yep.

00:27:16 Speaker 1

Good, but also incorporate it's incorporate find somebody like.

00:27:20 Speaker 1

Want to incorporate in your life? Somebody who will do some of this extra testing cause they are not, they don't have.

00:27:26 Speaker 1

Sets to the stuff that you're offering, so I think it's important to have a comprehensive package. Yeah, team. Yeah. Yes. A therapist. We have a nutritionist or at.

00:27:33 Speaker 1

A.

00:27:34 Speaker 1

We.

00:27:38 Speaker 1

We have somebody who can do energy testing and work on our bodies and say, like, gosh, you have inflammation in this area, gosh, you have mold in your body and let's use this nutraceutical to clean that out. But somebody who's trained in that. So anyway it's a team.

00:27:50 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:27:52 Speaker 2

Approach it is, it is and that's one more thing too on that is like you are.

00:27:57 Speaker 2

So not a loan that's unfortunately such. I don't know. I think it's an insurance thing, but I'll never understand. Like, if you want to know like something in your body, like it's not like the doctor is personally paying for it. I'm like, I don't even.

00:28:08 Speaker 2

Or if you know insurance may cover some, but I'll pay enough or I'll pay extra. But it's like you just wanna know. And so I would say that it's like my biggest pet peeve is just the them denying it or they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll run it. And then, like, we'll get it.

00:28:21 Speaker 2

Back and it's.

00:28:22 Speaker 2

Like, oh, they actually didn't run like everything that they said they would because, again, conventional is there to do a diagnosis. So if there's no.

00:28:29 Speaker 2

Diagnosis. They can't do anything for you, and I think we all have to like understand that. So we know like that's what we're getting is we're just getting someone who is trying to diagnose. And then if there is no diagnosis.

00:28:41 Speaker 2

That's it.

00:28:41 Speaker 1

Really just a shift.

00:28:42 Speaker 1

In the mindset and then again like I see, like my chiropractor does, all my nutraceuticals and does all my body testing, he's he's been he's been specifically excuse me, trained in that way and he even says look I'm not a doctor, he said doctors are smart people. I'm not saying that I'm not telling you. Your doctor said something that's wrong and that's what I say they're not.

00:28:43

Yeah.

00:28:57

Yeah.

00:29:02 Speaker 1

They're not dumb people. They went to military school. These are very, very smart individuals. They were trained in very specific way.

00:29:03 Speaker 2

Right.

00:29:07 Speaker 2

Right.

00:29:09 Speaker 1

In our country, specifically, and so that's not their fault, that's the thing. And the protocol that is used here in the United States to provide medical training to our physicians. And so they're brilliant. They're skilled. They know exactly what they're supposed to do, but they are influenced very highly by the narrative around our pharmaceutical companies. And I'm sure everybody knows.

00:29:13

Yes.

00:29:30 Speaker 1

By now, but I mean that's that's what they are. They have to do that. And so that's why people like you and people like the new means. I'm sure you know, Casey means and they're both good energy and all the good stuff that's coming out around them. That is so phenomenal and eye opening for people as we start to take a look and I said like I said you don't need to eliminate.

00:29:32

Yeah.

00:29:34

Yeah.

00:29:49 Speaker 1

Having a physical every year like cool, go through that, but also ask the questions like what does this mean that my cholesterol was high? Because when you?

00:29:51 Speaker 2

Exactly.

00:29:56 Speaker 1

You do that and you start to see like, oh, actually the measures that we used the numbers to calculate cholesterol in this country really aren't that accurate. And what is? That's what he helped me so much. He's like, well, what is cholesterol comes from stress? Right. And he showed me the whole graph. These are the things that can cause cholesterol to rise and it's all.

00:30:10

Yeah.

00:30:16 Speaker 1

Aggressors that make more cholesterol to move things out of your body? I have zero idea that that's what was happening. Clearly not now. So it's just really about asking questions, not taking everyone's word for it. Even if somebody's getting offended or they get upset with you or whatever happens.

00:30:23 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:30:26 Speaker 2

Yep.

00:30:33 Speaker 1

Just trust yourself and your body.

00:30:36 Speaker 1

When I get a little practical to end things here because I want to make sure everyone can leave with some really good stuff that they can start to implement right now. So when you're working with your clients and even yourself and then in your life, what are some of the first like kind of 101 things that you go to? I mean, most of us, like you said, we know we hear the things like we know we're supposed to drink a ton of water, right?

00:30:56 Speaker 1

Drinking a gallon of water a day? We know we're supposed to move our body. We know that we should try to eat well on things. But what do you what would be a few things that literally we could start doing like in the next few days and make a huge impact in our gut health and overall the way.

00:31:13 Speaker 2

Yeah, of course. Diet is like #1 or I don't know. I feel like so many things equal #1. But diet is right up there. And I I think that there is a lot of noise and like what you should be eating. What should you not be eating? You see one thing one minute saying this is great. And then the next minute you see it's so bad. And I really do want to emphasize.

00:31:32 Speaker 2

By the need of bio individuality that we're all different and that is why there is not a one-size-fits-all diet and even certain things that could be healthy like salmon to one person won't be healthy. They actually may not react that well. And so that's where it does bile down. Dial down to your specific needs.

00:31:51 Speaker 2

So testing is really where that's going to tell you, but I also don't think we have to make it complicated. I think when we just look at our plate and ask can I grow that or can I kill that? If you can answer yes, then you're usually eating just real wholesome foods. And if that's the most basic thing you can do, just.

00:32:10 Speaker 2

Just start working on that again. It can get a little bit more complex and like when I eat broccoli it bloats me. You know there's different things. But if by chance a lot of foods feel triggering to you, that usually means that there's something more going on in your gut and you probably should do stool tests.

00:32:24 Speaker 2

Because just restricting foods long term is not the solution, right? Just like I said, a natural pill for an ill that is an absolute Band-Aid. Food restriction is a Band-Aid. It may be helpful and needed short term, but that is not your long term solution. We want to understand why your body may be flagging this down is dangerous, but eating just real wholesome foods. And I would even say.

00:32:45 Speaker 2

To assessing because you might be like, well, I have like simple meals, crackers and all these healthier processed foods, which and when people are in a healed season, that's usually not a big deal. But if you're in a healing season where you do have to really hone in on that, honestly, again, sticking a real wholesome foods, even monitoring the amount of healthier processed foods that you're having.

00:33:06 Speaker 2

So I'm all about like getting down to the simple basics. It doesn't have to be complex like that, and that's a really great place to start.

00:33:13 Speaker 2

My and then I would say my number 2 is stress because I have people we actually don't have a lot of patients that come to us and eat really bad. Like I think a lot of people may think like Oh well, you probably do a lot of people are eating like standard American diet and really actually most women are really trying their hardest. They're like trying to prioritize veggies and protein. Just all these things.

00:33:33 Speaker 2

So they're actually not eating terribly.

00:33:37 Speaker 2

But their diet can be really great, but their stress is just out the wazoo. And so that can look like potentially changing your exercise. Maybe you're like, well, I'm exercising every single day. Maybe you don't need to be exercising every single day. Maybe we need to start getting more into a rest and digest mode and not a fight or flight all the time. Sometimes that's addressing like past trauma.

00:33:57 Speaker 2

Sometimes that's to say no to things and just, you know, some our schedules are so bombarded. And I'm like, honestly, I don't see anything in there that looks fun to you. It's all work and and kids and all these other things. What's the thing that you enjoy reading books or watching a movie? Like, where is that so sometimes.

00:34:12 Speaker 2

It's just real simple. Just saying no more, less commitments and just more time for doing something that you enjoy and going back to the diet thing. One extra thing is just making sure that we're eating enough. If you are eating anything less than 1500 calories, you are pretty much close to eating like as much as a toddler should. And we are grown women.

00:34:32 Speaker 2

Who also a lot of us, if we're in our reproductive phase, we're in the stage of growing a human. So I don't know why we're eating like toddlers and we're trying to grow a baby. So I would say that's hands down and 90% of women we see as they're under eating.

00:34:46 Speaker 2

And that is making them tired. That is making their hormones off that is actually hurting their gut microbiome because caloric restriction long term actually decreases our diversity in our gut bacteria, which we need a very diverse gut. So if you can focus on real, wholesome foods and eat enough and that depends on everyone, but fees nothing under 1500 if we need.

00:35:07 Speaker 2

If we need a marker to go by, that's what I would recommend.

00:35:12

Umm.

00:35:12 Speaker 1

That, and so you say real wholesome foods, which is great and most of us have, like you said, most of the women that you're most people that are seeking out services like that now some of them might be in like this repair, right or maybe they've been in maybe they have been dealing with kind of a chronic illness or they've been down that medical Rd. where they're heavily medicated, not multiple diagnosis. And they're like I'm.

00:35:31 Speaker 1

Done with this.

00:35:32 Speaker 1

I'm ready for a solution, so they might not be you know.

00:35:35 Speaker 1

In a great.

00:35:35

Yeah.

00:35:35 Speaker 1

Estate searching and looking for somebody like you and end up and then you.

00:35:39 Speaker 1

Do have a.

00:35:40 Speaker 1

Lot of room for. OK, let's let's hit the pavement and a lot of it is around education because let's face it, we only know what we know and most of it's whatever we grew up with, you know, like I would say, if you grew up with a family.

00:35:50 Speaker 2

Yes.

00:35:53 Speaker 1

Who only ate box mashed potatoes or something wrong with that? But if that's what you knew, if you did not grow up with homemade food or you had constantly had Oreos or chips, just mostly process foods and maybe your mom was even relatively healthy or thin and she was fit, you just weren't, you weren't raised in a family where there was, like.

00:36:14 Speaker 1

A lot of that, like you don't know, like you don't even know.

00:36:18 Speaker 1

That those things are options. So it's not your fault. You know. So sometimes I feel like some people get really caught up in that, you know, like you feel like, oh, well, I don't know. You know, then we want to blame ourselves. But a lot of times this.

00:36:28 Speaker 1

Is just. We didn't know any.

00:36:29 Speaker 1

Better you know.

00:36:30 Speaker 2

Yeah, I was saying, like, you know, better do better. And I was right there with you. I was totally making instant mash. You guys when I was pre Med, I didn't know anything.

00:36:38 Speaker 2

And I was a Teen Mom, so I. I mean, I learned a little bit from my mom of, like, cooking and stuff, but I was a very basic, like, canned green veg.

00:36:46 Speaker 2

Or green beans and instant mash and maybe some pre marinate? I have no idea what I was doing you guys. So it's just like you learn a little bit and then you make little changes and then now I look back, I'm like, gosh, I can't even like, I can't even imagine Mohana being 20 and doing that because I've come so far and you know, we all have a day one.

00:37:05 Speaker 1

Absolutely. And and I want to highlight too that like one of my personally, my philosophy in my own life, but mostly what I teach in my practice too and and a lot of it is because I need it as a kind of recovering perfectionist and sort of majorly type a aggressive pursuer.

00:37:21 Speaker 1

Of things that are like not gonna be the healthiest way of living, I have to remind myself that like doing tiny things like simple things every single day and then we don't deviate from that over time leads to those big transformations. So for me, I'm recovering addicts, so everything is like yesterday. I don't understand why.

00:37:37

Yeah.

00:37:42 Speaker 1

I haven't had any changes after 5 seconds and so it's hard to like. Listen to you and say when my trainer said this was several years ago and I was going into phase, he was COVID it was, it was in not a good place.

00:37:56 Speaker 1

And I just needed to like regroup and so I reached reach out this one. This friend of mine, I love her. And she was like, hey, I just want you to drink a gallon of water a day. And I.

00:37:58

Yeah.

00:38:05 Speaker 1

Was like, OK and I'm like here with my list and I'm like, alright.

00:38:10 Speaker 1

OK. And she's like, that's it.

00:38:12 Speaker 1

Like no way. That's that's not it. Like I can't.

00:38:15

Should be.

00:38:17 Speaker 1

I can't do that. I mean, I can do that, but I'm not going to. Just.

00:38:20 Speaker 1

Do that and it.

00:38:21 Speaker 2

It's too simple.

00:38:21 Speaker 1

Was hard, hard to like, just so my point is is like when we pick these small, when we my point in bringing it up was that it can be very overwhelming to the point of breakdown. I've had them where you're like, how am I gonna get my gun cleaned? And I can't do that where you're just like.

00:38:37 Speaker 1

Pump the brakes. I'm sure you do this in your practice, but I'm telling you all of you listening. Just start with one area and maybe if you say OK, I want to work on my food. Fine. Pick one meal like, OK, I'm gonna work on breakfast. I'm gonna work on my right now. I'm.

00:38:51 Speaker 1

Eating a power bar.

00:38:53 Speaker 1

And Dunkin' Donuts full sugar coffee.

00:38:57 Speaker 1

For breakfast. OK, what can we do to change that one meal to completely whole food situation with no processed foods? Just that one meal. You know? Or like, I wanna move my body. I always tell my clients you could do 20 minutes a day, three days a week.

00:39:01

Yep.

00:39:14 Speaker 1

That's your that is your goal. But sometimes you might feel great and you're out there for your walk and it's been 20 minutes. You're like, I feel great. So you just keep going. Fine. Keep going. And some days you might have another day where you're, like, actually, I want to go out again. So. But the minimum was 3. So whatever be more than that is extra. So we start with these tiny baby steps, add to it over time.

00:39:21

Yeah.

00:39:33 Speaker 1

I know you're nodding, so you totally agree.

00:39:35 Speaker 1

Because it can be like ohh so much and then we see the Instagram posts and we see this. And we read the books and I'm like, Oh my God. So just pick.

00:39:39 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:39:42 Speaker 1

Somebody like lahana to follow? She has a podcast as well. She's got a fabulous website. You can follow people like Casey means I love her. We have the book. It's very thick.

00:39:52 Speaker 1

I'm like, and mitochondria kind of makes my eyes like wanna roll back a little because I'm just not like you. So I'm like, holy smokes, it's a little spicy, but it kind of makes myself doing it because I just want to reintegrate those things and concepts into my brain, even though I'm not gonna be able to, really.

00:39:57

I love it.

00:40:00 Speaker 2

I love that.

00:40:07 Speaker 2

Yeah.

00:40:09 Speaker 1

Retain it to like, teach some of that science, but.

00:40:10 Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah.

00:40:12 Speaker 1

It's changing the.

00:40:12 Speaker 1

Neuropathies my brain and I really want that so.

00:40:15 Speaker 1

I love that everybody listening. I want them to just try to do that. So for those who people want to get a hold of.

00:40:21 Speaker 1

You where do you like?

00:40:21 Speaker 2

Them to reach out the most yes and one note on social media is please don't compare yourself to what you see because some of these people that we may follow and look at their body by like how she looks amazing.

00:40:35 Speaker 2

Goals.

00:40:36 Speaker 2

I also have run lots of labs on people like that and they are not so healthy inside even though they have washboard ads and literally look amazing outside. So please don't compare because you don't truly know what's going on inside and like, let that burn and be off of you because sometimes, honestly, the women that are the healthiest.

00:40:56 Speaker 2

Side I think hold a little bit more body fat than our society would naturally.

00:41:00 Speaker 2

Except I feel like those are the people. It's like, oh, you could lose 10 lbs. Honestly, they have really great hormones and a lot of good stuff inside. So please don't let that that view make you feel bad about yourself because I don't see that. So Instagram is my favorite place at Newbie True Wellness and UVI TRU Wellness. All one word and our website is newbie to wellness.com.

00:41:20 Speaker 2

And we're on all the other platforms, TikTok and stuff like that too. But Instagram is primarily where I'm at.

00:41:24 Speaker 1

Awesome. And what's the name of your podcast and?

00:41:26 Speaker 2

Where can we find it? Functional, nutrition, radio. And that's just me. And then power women Wellness, where I'm interviewing women in power on their health.

00:41:33 Speaker 2

13.

00:41:34 Speaker 1

Oh my gosh. Amazing. I want everyone to go follow Mohana and all of her work. She's got amazing stuff to offer you, and if you haven't done any of.

00:41:42 Speaker 1

This if you haven't.

00:41:43

Don.

00:41:43 Speaker 1

Dove, you haven't done it. Dived into this area of your life and consider doing this kind of functional medicine, testing, whatever. Give it a shot like there's no big commitment. Like, it's not like you're signing away your life for thousands of dollars. It's usually kind of a low level commitment. You could just give a little bit of a shot and try it and say hey.

00:42:03 Speaker 1

Yeah. Let me do a little bit of testing or let me experiment with what it would.

00:42:08 Speaker 1

Like to not eat these granola bars, Quaker granola bars, and maybe I experiment with making my own like I make my own from whole food ingredients. That's the other thing I always think is important that most of the things that we love to eat, that are processed and easy, we can figure out a way to do it ourselves. And yes, it's a little bit of effort, but when you put the effort in and sometimes you can freeze things or we can.

00:42:23

Hold on.

00:42:28 Speaker 1

Package them so that they.

00:42:29 Speaker 1

Say lasts a long time, but.

00:42:31 Speaker 1

There's usually an option we can replace, so don't be afraid to check out something in this realm. It's not scary, it doesn't have to be overly expensive. It doesn't have to be crazy, and it can be really, really, really impactful to your health. So thank you so much for your time, for your talent, and I'm super excited to get everyone in my community linked with you so that we can all.

00:42:51 Speaker 1

Start being healthier, raising healthier kids and and communities and and a whole country, right?

00:42:57 Speaker 2

Yes, yes, thank you, Shelby.

00:42:59 Speaker 1

Thank you so much.